Tags: American food, burger, Burger Hunt, food, Hamburger, Pub Food
Tags: American food, Bacon, burger, Burger Hunt, burgers, Epping, fast food, food, Hamburger
After the unmitigated disaster that was last weekends burger hunt, I needed to rebound with something special. There’s still quite a few burgers on my to-do list, and one that has been up the top for quite some time is Laurie Dee’s. The reason I haven’t ticked it off yet is the fact that it’s almost an hour away from where I live. Today I decided it was time. So off on the burger hunt we went. By we I mean, Katie, Chris and of course Lucy.
After the long trip in the car talking about burgers we arrived a fairly ravenous bunch – sprint walking to the restaurant. Thankfully it was pretty quiet and we were seated and ordering before too long. A quick look around Laurie Dee’s and you immediately think Franchise. This place is being positioned to franchise. From the décor to the menu to the layout – it all screams franchise. Not that this is always a bad thing – but it did put me off a little bit at first. The menu is slick and full of delicious photo’s, so after I wiped my drool off the menu, I proceeded to select a burger. I opted for the Double Laurie Dee’s with added bacon ($12.95), Katie went for the Double Bacon & Cheddar ($10.95), and Chris decided to go crazy and opted for the Sloppy Joe ($10.95). We also ordered some chilli cheese fries and I got a Banana Shake – Katie and Chris later ordered some of the “Frozen custard” for dessert.
One thing I will say, is that you probably want to go for the double – the burgers aren’t big – they’re designed to go two patties. Speaking of the patties – very interesting. Apparently they are hand minced daily, which is great, but the way the are cooked is where you get the biggest difference from your normal burger. Very thin and squashed flat, the edges get crispy and very caramelised, which gives you a nice meaty taste. Generally, the danger here would be a rubbery, dry overcooked patty, but at Laurie Dee’s they have avoided that – The patty is still juicy enough, and encased in melted, gooey, American style cheese – so you get that fatty, salty accompaniment to the beef – works well. The overall flavour reminded me of American fast food beef – not unlike five guys actually. The bacon is the next hit – it’s smokey, salty and crisp – delicious. The buns are fairly standard fast food style – very soft and spongy, although not cakey in this case. The sauces were great, although I’ve never been a massive fan of pickle relish – too sweet for me – I’d probably be happy to leave it out next time. Overall a very good fast food style American burger. In fact we all really enjoyed our burgers . The chilli fries were also great – once again very much like what I’ve gotten back in the states – A nice cheesy sauce with a mild chilli – worth getting if you go.
Since I was full from the meal (Plus I had a thick shake – nice enough, but nothing you haven’t had before) I skipped ordering my own dessert. Katie and Chris both really enjoyed theirs and from the sneaky tastes I managed to get, I’d have to agree. Not sure if “frozen custard” is really any different to ice cream, but either way it’s good.
On the long drive home, much of the discussion centred around the rating. Everyone really enjoyed their food – The clear theme was value for money and delivering on the promise of a good fast food style American burger. My thoughts were – as good as it was – it was still fast food quality. Can I go above 7.5 in this case? Chris and Katie seemed to think yes.
I think I’m going to stick to my guns on this one. A very enjoyable, fun burger. If you’ve eaten burgers in the States, you’ll enjoy this. If you like the current gourmet burger trend, then you might rate this burger a little lower. In any case, I’m going rate this a good solid 7.5 with a note that my fellow burger hunters would rate it higher.
Tags: American food, Bacon, burger, Burger Hunt, burgers, Essendon, food, Hamburger, Mac and Cheese
I’ve wanted to try this place for a while now – they have some of the tastiest looking burgers on instagram. Not only that, but the feedback around the traps has been fairly positive so I’ve been waiting for an excuse to head out to the western suburbs. Recently, that excuse came in the form of a text message from Chris:
Obviously when you’ve been starved of good burgers for a while, the response was an instantaneous – yes. After some planning, Chris and his partner Hannah agreed to meet me in Essendon around 6:30. I got there a little late as the trip across town is a bit of pain and the traffic sucked. Chris clearly had a worse time of it than me, as he still wasn’t there by 7pm. In the mean time, I got to watch some very delicious looking burgers come off the pass and out the door. I ordered some mac and cheese slappers and a salted caramel milkshake just to pass the time.
The salted caramel milkshake was more thickshake than milkshake – just how I like them – delicious. The slappers were good, but I’ll be honest, I don’t really rate fried mac and cheese – the problem is that is will inevitably be too dry and mostly pasta with only a little sauce. I love mac and cheese, but I like it saucy, not dry – and you can’t have that if you fry it or it would just fall apart. This attempt was a good as it’s probably going to get, so if it’s your thing, then I’m sure these wont disappoint.
By the time Chris and Hannah arrived I was so hungry from watching burger after burger paraded before my eyes that I was sitting in a puddle of drool (Ok, not that bad – but gee I was hungry).
We raced up to the counter to order our burgers – I’d had some time to decided what I wanted so I ordered the Dude burger with added bacon – apparently they have cold smoked bacon here – it looks delicious. I’m sure it would make the burgers just that much better, but I’ll never know as they had run out. I could see and smell the last remaining rashes of bacon sizzling on the grill – oh woe was me. My death stare towards Chris was ignored/avoided. Although, to be fair, I shouldn’t blame him for their lack of bacon supplies… In the end I ordered the Dude burger – 160gm Wagyu beef patty cooked medium, American cheddar, caramelised onions, pickles, lettuce, tomatoes, ketchup, mustard and aioli – $13. Chris opted to double down, with the extra patty and Hannah went for the delicious looking southern fried chicken burger.
We didn’t have to wait too long for our burgers. I was straight into mine – honestly, anything would have tasted amazing at this stage. After the first couple of bites I paused, and Hannah commented that I had a thoughtful expression. Chris too had paused. There was a problem. Neither of us wanted to admit it. I tried some of the patty on it’s own, I took a couple more bites. The look of the burger wasn’t the problem – it looked amazing. The elements themselves were high quality and well cooked – The bun was the sweeter style brioche which can be cakey, however they had warmed these through and the effect was a perfectly soft and spongy bun – a bit on the sweet side for me though. The pickles were great, a sharp/sweet style. The salad did its job and added texture and freshness. The cheese was melted well, although it was very mild. The caramelised onions added richness. The sauces were in the background and didn’t really add to the flavour, rather they added juiciness. And finally we come to the Wagyu patty. Perfectly cooked, juicy, tender.
So what’s the problem you ask? This sounds like an amazing burger. The only problem was that it wasn’t. It was like someone had made me a cordial and not put enough syrup in the glass. It was “watery”.
There was very little flavour. The whole burger was bland – the dominant flavour was sweet. I got almost no beef flavour, no salt, very little savoury – “umami”. Chris had two patties and he had the same problem. It was like they had selected a very lightly flavoured beef and then forgot to season the patties. The whole thing was just intensely disappointing. We discussed that the sweet flavour profile would have really worked with some BBQ sauce, or the addition of smokey bacon to counter the sweet notes… But in the end we were grasping at straws.
At the end of the day, there was very little beef flavour in the beef patties – this is not a good thing in a beef burger. I wanted to believe that we just got a weird batch. I wanted love these burgers. I can’t give this burger anything more than 6.5 based on my experience. I’ll go back and try the burger with bacon and see how it goes – a burger this good looking shouldn’t be this bad. On the plus side – Hannah thought the chicken burger was delicious…
Tags: Bacon, Brunch, café, Eggs, Maling Road
Judging by the frequency of my posts of recent times, it would appear that fatherhood has placed a bit of a handbrake on my food adventures… These days, when I do go out, it’s not often that it’s on an adventure. You’re just never sure what the environment will be like, and whether it will be baby friendly etc. Oh well.
Since it was fathers day today (my first) Katie decided that heading out for brunch would be a good option. Low key, normally baby friendly, and there’s plenty of good options. Maling road is a quaint little heritage listed district not far from home with a plethora of cafe’s to choose from. We wondered into Bombaleros (as we spied a high chair – must be baby friendly), and proceeded to set up for brunch. We have to set up these days… Not that I would swap things for the world – but there was a time when things were much more spontaneous. Anyway, Bombaleros, unbeknown to us, is a Spanish/South America inspired cafe. The menu is short and sweet for the bunch options – most have that south American vibe. I would normally go with a big breakfast, but on this occasion it would have been too expensive. They don’t offer a big breakfast, so you would have to construct your own, by adding to the eggs on toast. When these are north of $10 already and your side will set you back between 3.5 and 4.5, then my usual would have come in around $27… Normally the big breakfast option is a bit of a discount so the build your own option was just too pricy here. I was forced opt for a more creative option, which I usually want to do anyway, I’m just always scared I wont get enough to eat. I ordered the Columbian Burrito, which was filled with mushrooms, bacon and chorizo mixed with scrambled eggs wrapped, on the side was guacamole and Pico de Gallo. To be honest – somewhat bland, needed something to really give it some zing.
Mum and Jo ordered the Serrano croquettes which came with roasted tomato, bacon, wilted spinach, poached egg, aioli & chimichurri. These were excellent, and thankfully I had a fair helping of mum’s as she wasn’t all that hungry. And Katie just went for Bacon and eggs.
Quite a nice place, and an interesting take on Brunch. If I were to go back I definitely opt for the croquettes, they were delicious. Not a bad way to spend fathers day – and Lucy only cried at the end. Success!
Tags: Bacon, Blackburn, Brunch, Eggs, schnitzel
It’s been so long since I’ve updated the blog that I forgot my login details… Anyway, lets enjoy this moment while it lasts. Christopher and Mum decided they wanted to shower Lucy with some more baby presents, so we thought Brunch could be a good idea. Katie visits the Food Republic with her mothers group every Wednesday so we knew the place was fairly decent and not too far away, so it was an easy choice.
I’d suggest booking for Sunday brunch, as the place was packed and there was a wait when we arrived. Thankfully I took my own advice and we had booked a table off to the side so we could fit the baby capsule. The staff here are very accommodating and efficient and the table they had chosen for us was well located with plenty of room.
Christopher, Katie and yours truly all opted for eggs of some sorts and Mum went with the super sized schnitzel sandwich. Looking around the restaurant I was a bit envious of the lunch options coming out, and I think I’d probably opt for one of those next time, as they all looked amazing.
I ordered the big breakfast however as I hadn’t eaten and it seemed wrong to jump straight to lunch. I went with scrambled eggs – as the waitress had recommended them – and they were very good. The big breakfast was around $22 I think, and overall it was quite nice. However, there was nothing really that made it stand out. I think there needed to be something different – some baked beans could have done the job – you know how I love my beans. It comes with mushrooms, bacon, tomato, pork sausage, plenty of toast and I got some potato rosti as well.
First impressions and it looked the part – a good serving size – although, the first thing I noticed was the bacon. I’m not a fan of short cut bacon – and although this was a nice smoky bacon, it just lacked the crispy fat that I was really craving. Nice mushrooms, with a nice rosemary hit, and a lovely whole grilled tomato. The rosti wasn’t the best I’ve had, and the sausage was ok – I had Christopher’s as he didn’t like it. As you can see a bit hit and miss. On the other hand, Mum’s schnitzel sandwich was very good.
It’s a nice place, with very good, friendly staff and a good honest breakfast, and some very good lunches. Well worth a visit.
Tags: Bacon, burger, Burger Hunt, burgers, food, Hamburger, Poutine
Sometimes you have those moments in your life when it seems as though all is well with the world. Admittedly, at those moments you’re probably not reflecting very deeply and it’s possible that the sumptuous burger that is filling your mouth is making real introspection difficult. Regardless of the realities of the Greek financial crisis or third world poverty or Miley Cyrus – I had one such moment at Mr Scruff’s. Had you observed me at that point in time, you would have witnessed an overweight, balding man, grinning crazily and probably giggling at times as he shoved a rather larger burger into his mouth – possibly pausing occasionally to stare at the beautiful burgery goodness that fate had seen fit to place in his hands. Oh my goodness indeed…
Ah, I should probably explain as this is getting a little weird… Damo and I had not caught up for quite some time and with Lucy fed and in bed, I decided to head out for a burger. I’d heard some buzz about Mr Scuff’s and I felt that now was my opportunity to test out the reports. Damo was keen for a catch up so off we went. 7:30 on a cold Tuesday in the middle of the Melbourne winter had not dissuaded the punters and Mr Scruff’s was pretty full. We had to wait for a table to clear so we could sit down. But since it was “Chewsday” I guess it was always going to be busy. I was happy to wait, so we ordered our burgers. Damo went for the chewsday special – the Pooter Burger which came with think gravy, mozzarella, a bacon weave (which just means heaps of bacon!!) kipfler chips, usa cheese, a beef patty, cos lettuce and mayo – for $18. That actually didn’t sound particularly appealing to me so I went for the standard burger with an added patty and bacon. It comes with Cheese, lettuce, onions, pickles and a special sauce – $17 in total. We also ordered the Poutine – because, Poutine – and some onion rings. Both side were exceptionally good. I really like the poutine here – it was about as good as I’ve had outside of Canada to be honest – although still not quite right (Missing the cheese curds – grated cheese doesn’t work as well). But we’re not here to talk about the sides – however good they might be…
My burger was, from start to finish – amazing. One of the best burgers I’ve had full stop! The bun was perfect for this burger – a fresh white bread with a soft and spongy feel – although strong enough to stand up to a juicy, saucy, double meat burger. The bacon in this burger was great – a nice crispy cut which was smokey with just the right amount of fat without becoming greasy. The cheese was perfectly melted and the American style was the right choice. The patties were the standout however – both well cooked with a nice hint of pink – and a really good size for a double – not too thin and not too thick. The meat was ground on a fairly coarse setting which allowed for a juicy, beefy texture and the seasoning was on point. The lettuce added the freshness and the pickles were necessary to add sharpness and cut through all the rich fatty elements. Overall the burger was perfectly balanced. Each bite was burger heaven – and even though I was feeling pretty full, I know that if another burger had been placed in front of me, it would have been pretty difficult to stop myself from giving it a shot.
This to me, is a perfect expression of this style of burger – quality ingredients, well executed, balanced. It’s the bacon double cheeseburger that you dream of when you want one – but never get (Until now!).
I give it a 9.5 – If I were asked where you should go for the best bacon double cheeseburger in Melbourne – this would be it. I want one right now!
Tags: burger, Burger Hunt, burgers, food, Hamburger, Melbourne, Pub, Pub Food
I was in the city for a bit of adventure for Chris’s birthday recently at venue called Escape Hunt in the city. It was actually a lot more fun than I thought it would be, even though we were too slow to figure out the mystery… Afterwards it was suggested that we head off to the Mitre Tavern for some refreshments – Now I wasn’t planning for a burger, but as the opportunity presented itself, who was I to say no… Sometimes I should say no… Not all burgers are created equal. You just have wonder why venues will bother to put a burger on the menu and then produce these insipid, can’t be bothered burgers. I mean, what’s the point if you are just going to serve up a pre-frozen, sausage patty, which has no resemblance to anything I would call a burger. Do they think people order burgers because they lack a sophisticated palate and wont care what they get – as long as it’s hot and comes with chips??? I have to believe that’s what some “chefs” think. What I think is that if you can’t be bothered, then don’t put it on the menu. By all reports, the other meals were fine – standard pub fare. The burger… NOT FINE.
I’m not really sure if I could be bothered with this review, because it would appear the “chef” couldn’t be bothered with my burger… I mean, they didn’t even bother to sauce the thing – I had to do that myself.
The burger arrived open and I guess the small amount of tomato sauce was to serve for both the chips and the burger?? The patty wasn’t close to good – it was clearly just heated up and as a result it was pretty rubbery. To compare it to an overcooked sausage would be unfair to the sausage. The lettuce was that salad mix stuff you get in bags from the supermarket – it just doesn’t belong on a burger. To be brutally honest, the best thing about the whole affair was the beetroot. AND I HATE BEETROOT. Sure I guess the bun was ok, and the onion rings were nice enough if you ate them on their own with the sauce, although then you would have nothing left for the burger…
Honestly I’d give it a 3.5 – Avoid the burger.
Red Box Burger & Grill – Restart Container Mall, 126 Cashel Street, Christchurch Central, Christchurch – New ZealandPosted: July 2, 2015 in Burger Hunt
Tags: Bacon, burger, Burger Hunt, burgers, Christchurch, food, food truck, Hamburger, New Zealand
I didn’t get much of a chance to go burger hunting while I was in New Zealand recently – by virtue of the fact that I was on a ski camp and on the slopes most of the time trying not to kill myself (I’m still sore…). However, a half-day trip into Christchurch presented the perfect opportunity to grab a local burger. Christchurch by the way is still in pretty bad shape. While they are slowly rebuilding, there is still quite a lot of obvious reminders that a massive earth quake pretty much levelled the city only 5 years ago. The Restart Container Mall is a cool approach to dealing with the difficulties of getting on with business while having to rebuild a city. Essentially a city block that used to house shops and high-rise buildings is now populated by a bunch of renovated shipping containers that have been fitted out to house retail shops and cafe’s – it’s a brilliant use of the space. There’s also a bunch of food trucks – and one such food truck is Red Box Burger and Grill.
I got in just as they were finishing up – my burger was the last before they closed up shop. I ordered their Manuka Burger which comes with bacon, cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, roasted red pepper, aioli and Dijon mustard on a white bread bun. The patty was huge but apparently they’re changing it to two patties – still all for $13.50NZD.
It was interesting to watch the girl cook-up and assemble my burger. One thing that I found intriguing was the technique she used to cook the patty. The patty itself was angus mince, pre-shaped into a large patty, which she then proceeded to bash out on the grill using a potato masher. She just pounded the patty on the grill until it was a huge disk of meaty goodness. The net effect was a pretty thin patty although still fairly tender. The only problem was that since it was the end of the day, the grill was clearly a bit oily so it got a fair bit of fat and grease all over it – made the patty a bit greasy. It was a huge tasty patty nonetheless.
I quite liked the addition of the red pepper, it was one of those jarred, roasted red peppers which had a slightly pickled taste – in the absence of pickle this gave the burger that much needed piquancy that cut through all that fat. The bacon was crunchy and fatty and delicious. I loved the Dijon mustard with the aioli – nice change from the standards back home. I would have liked a bit more cheese – the one small slice for a burger this big just wasn’t enough. The main issue I had with the burger was the bun – it really let the whole thing down. It was a bit stale and crumbly and just didn’t stand up to the big juicy patty. Overall, I’d give it a 7 – nice enough, but I wouldn’t go out of my way for one again.
Chicken with forty cloves of garlic is a classic casserole dish that is just made for the middle of winter. As we are coming up to the winter solstice I thought it would be appropriate to serve up this amazing dish. Actually I should credit Kathy, my Mother-in-law for this one – she’s a big time foodie and an inspirational cook. She’s the kind of cook that start’s planning for the main meal the night before, and she’s not the type to just throw together something bland and uninteresting. I don’t think I’ve ever had a bad meal cooked by Kathy.
I think Kathy made this on my first trip over to Florida with Katie when we first got engaged about 9 years ago. I was dubious about a dish that contained 40 actual cloves of garlic – I mean I like garlic – but that sounded like some crazy future mother-in-law move to keep Katie and I from making out – for the next 10 years… But being new, I played along. Kathy served the meal with green beans, mashed potato and fresh bread. And of course some pretty good wine as is always the case at the Steen table.It took about two bites of this dish for it to go straight into my top meals of all time. It really is that good. It’s a pretty old recipe and the version that Kathy uses is based on a James Beard recipe:
- 4 celery stalks chopped
- 2 medium-size onions, diced
- 6 sprigs parsley
- 1 tablespoon chopped fresh tarragon
- ⅔ cup olive oil
- 2 medium sized chickens, cut up into quarters
- I keep the breast on the bone with the skin on and the wing drumette attached
- ½ cup dry vermouth (I Use martini Brand – Vermouth is only good for two things, and both need the good stuff…)
- 2 ½ teaspoons salt
- ½ teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
- Freshly grated nutmeg
- 40 cloves garlic peeled
Yep – there really is 40 cloves of garlic. I think the original recipe calls for unpeeled garlic – I’ve never had it that way but if you really can’t be bothered peeling 40 cloves, (And you can’t buy there already peeled) I’m sure it’s great with the garlic unpeeled…
- Preheat the oven to 190c
- Chop the celery and the onions and cover the bottom of a heavy casserole dish – I use my Le Creuset French Oven
- Sprinkle in the parsley and chopped tarragon
- Rub some of the oil over the chicken pieces and place in the casserole dish
- Pour the remaining oil (Kathy often uses less oil – I throw it all in) and the Vermouth over the chicken
- Sprinkle the salt, pepper and nutmeg over the dish and tuck the garlic around and under the chicken (You can put in half before you put the chicken in the dish)
- Cover the top of the casserole dish tightly with aluminium foil and place lid over the top to create an airtight seal.
- Place in the oven for 1 hour and 20 minutes without removing the cover.
You will be amazed at how much liquid is created – and this is the best part of the dish… The fished product really doesn’t look all that flash. And if it were a restaurant, I’m sure they would pan off the chicken pieces a bit like confit duck, and then serve it with the sauce. Don’t bother, leave it as is – it tastes a good as it smells – not as it looks.
Spoon over as much of the sauce as you can – it’s delicious to sop up with some fresh French bread – baguette. It’s also great if you serve it with gnocchi, or mashed potato. You can also spread the tender garlic cloves onto the bread, it really is quite delicious.
This really is one of my favourite meals to make and eat at home, and apart from the peeling of the garlic, it’s a pretty easy meal to make.
Tags: American food, Bacon, burger, Burger Hunt, burgers, food, Fries, Frozen Yogurt, Glen Waverley, Hamburger, Milkshakes
I was desperate for a burger on Saturday night after a day spent working on reports, so I asked Chris to find a place nearby that we hadn’t been to. He came back with YOMG. That’s right, he suggested a frozen yogurt bar… Chris was almost banned from choosing burger places with this insipid effort. Well at least that’s what I thought at the time. Strangely I accepted his recommendation and we set off on our burger hunt to a FROZEN YOGURT bar… Ah Chris… Firstly, what sort of yogurt bar sells Burgers and Fries? YOMG is a frozen yogurt franchise – I’d been to the one in Mornington in the middle of summer, nice enough place…. It’s one of the plethora of trendy serve yourself frozen yogurt bars that seems to be popping up around the traps. They’re so trendy that there are two within walking distance on Glenhuntly road that opened at the same time near my old place. Great business planning there…
Anyway, so the YOMG in Glen Waverly also sells burgers – yep Burgers and Fries. I wonder how they convinced the franchise that they were going to sell burgers and fries as well – I mean, I don’t see that as a natural partnership. But perhaps I should – because regardless of how weird the idea was to me – when we arrived, it was standing room only – the place was packed. And this is in the middle of winter, and I can’t see business at a frozen yogurt bar really taking off when it’s 7c outside…
We couldn’t get a seat and it was almost impossible to get a park nearby – the problem was that I had Lucy in the baby carrier. So the plan was Katie and Chris would order and I would drive around so that Lucy wouldn’t lose it, and they’d call me when the burgers were ready and we’d park some where and eat. Consequently I’m not totally sure of the menu or the prices. I can say that I ordered the Double, which come with double beef, cheese, lettuce, tomato, caramelised onion, special sauce and ketchup – around $13. Chris got the same, Katie got a chicken burger and then we ordered some fries – Katie got some sort of pulled pork, Asian flavoured amazingness, and Chris ordered the American fries, which bacon, cheese sauce, ketchup and mustard (also amazing). Katie also got an amazing Peanut butter and salted caramel Milkshake and yet for some reason she only ordered me a can of coke zero… I think it would have been fair if we had divorced there and then – who does that to their husband?? Thankfully she let me have some of her delicious milkshake – although she wouldn’t give me any of her chicken burger. Our relationship is clearly on shaky ground.
We found a secluded side street to park on and then got stuck into our burgers and fries. Firstly – sorry about the photo’s, it was dark and I got some grease on the phone so the photo’s came out a little blurry. But that’s probably the only downside. The burgers here are amazing. Chris’s crazy suggestion for some reason paid off. From the first bite the burger really stands out – a nice soft bun, lightly toasted, good amount of seeds, a lovely glazed crust, spongy and fresh, savoury more than sweet. The patties were really good. Not the best quality meat – more a chuck style flavour – but seasoned well, a loose grind, so you get a very tender and juicy burger patty, and they were cooked to perfection. The cheese was melted and encased the double patties well. The caramelised onion added nice sweetness and richness to the burger and the salad balanced the burger well. The sauce was in the background, allowing the meat patties to shine through.
We were all pretty impressed and confused as to why these burgers are being sold in Yogurt bar. If a Yogurt bar can do a burger this good -then there is no excuse for any burger bar again to dish out anything less than this – ever. I’m still blown away by just how good this burger was – I wanted another one straight away – not that I needed another one. The fries were amazing too. Everything was great (Except my can of coke – which really was a disappointing accompaniment to such quality food). Chris felt that this burger was good enough for an 8.5. I’m inclined to almost agree. If the burger had pickles I think I’d be dishing out the 8.5 without thinking twice. As it is… Ah, stuff it – 8.5, it was that good. I guess Chris is allowed to choose the place again (He got lucky).